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for a Hub House co-operative coliving project
🏢#55 🏅67% SOLD • €110k • industrial • town • 2600m² hub • Offers a pretty large complex of buildings but with excessive work, including several that it would be better to demolish.
DODGY 🔨 effort
OKAY 💰 cost
DODGY 🚌 transport
OKAY ✈️ access
OKAY 🛒 shops
DODGY 🏙 towns
OKAY 🧗 activities
GOOD ☀️ climate
OKAY ⛰️ nature
OKAY 🌷 garden
GOOD 🏠 building
GOOD 🏘 hood
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Portugal: Castelo Branco, Guarda, (Lisbon)
☃️14–19° 🏖33–39° ☀️13 days 🌧9 days
☃️14–19° 🏖33–39° ☀️13 days 🌧9 days
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Environment ✧ natural park with 2,000m peak, natural swimming; town has gym and sports centre; paths on doorstep; river 7km, would need own equipment; small ski station 30mins drive; coast 2h
Services ✧ all, town centre 25mins walk; next town 1h train
Access ✧ station 40mins walk across town (3h30 Lisbon); airports too far (2h30 drive)
Notes ✧ rejected but sold for €110k including oil cleanup costs at €11k; developers will actually demolish most of it for new student accommodation
✦ major detractor for this versus others is lack of access to stream, although would likely be possible to acquire land down to it, would however have to be a large swathe in order to get privacy, however there'd also be terraces; score assumes garden
✦ price could be further reduced to ~95k
✦ significant work required clearing rubble and demolishing ruins, not expensive to hire workers though
✦ entire property has solid floors
✦ main building of 300m2 surface*2 has roofing requiring minor repair so could be used quickly; there's about a 200L oil spill on ground floor
✦ secondary building requires minimum 450m2 of new roofing, then another 300m2 for other building excluding the old ruin (175m2) which could probably become the conservatory
✦ this is the more presentable with its stone facade, long internal courtyard, and position as penultimate factory of the valley
✦ green outlook on one side, and over the town on the other
✦ both buildings on all floors have full south exposure, but are cool inside, could also be mitigated with sliding slatted shutters or pergolas for creepers/vines
✦ appears to have a small (inaccessible?) source under the buildings somewhere
✦ directly in front of the massive old Fiação Rosetas building
✦ 11*90==2000 rear warehouse on two floors but with bends and only front windows; good for studios with a rear corridor
✦ 10*30==600 stone front building, ground floor front windows only
✦ access is restricted to train or bus from Lisbon or Porto as rather far to drive unless combined with a group day trip, however future rail connections will improve
✦ can be hot although buildings remain cool, down season might be 1.5 months summer and 1.5 months winter
✦ local town of Guarda is on Mardrid-Lisbon night train line but not useful; new services may be introduced
✦ town has a datacentre and fibre networks are being rolled out
✦ property 4 http://www.cm-covilha.pt/db/documentos/899.1.1541418585.pdf
✦ it's a 200m ascent and 3km from the station, walkable but a little much; bike rentals are planned, else we could have our own electric scooters, could easily drop some down there
✦ major detractor for this versus others is lack of access to stream, although would likely be possible to acquire land down to it, would however have to be a large swathe in order to get privacy, however there'd also be terraces; score assumes garden
✦ price could be further reduced to ~95k
✦ significant work required clearing rubble and demolishing ruins, not expensive to hire workers though
✦ entire property has solid floors
✦ main building of 300m2 surface*2 has roofing requiring minor repair so could be used quickly; there's about a 200L oil spill on ground floor
✦ secondary building requires minimum 450m2 of new roofing, then another 300m2 for other building excluding the old ruin (175m2) which could probably become the conservatory
✦ this is the more presentable with its stone facade, long internal courtyard, and position as penultimate factory of the valley
✦ green outlook on one side, and over the town on the other
✦ both buildings on all floors have full south exposure, but are cool inside, could also be mitigated with sliding slatted shutters or pergolas for creepers/vines
✦ appears to have a small (inaccessible?) source under the buildings somewhere
✦ directly in front of the massive old Fiação Rosetas building
✦ 11*90==2000 rear warehouse on two floors but with bends and only front windows; good for studios with a rear corridor
✦ 10*30==600 stone front building, ground floor front windows only
✦ access is restricted to train or bus from Lisbon or Porto as rather far to drive unless combined with a group day trip, however future rail connections will improve
✦ can be hot although buildings remain cool, down season might be 1.5 months summer and 1.5 months winter
✦ local town of Guarda is on Mardrid-Lisbon night train line but not useful; new services may be introduced
✦ town has a datacentre and fibre networks are being rolled out
✦ property 4 http://www.cm-covilha.pt/db/documentos/899.1.1541418585.pdf
✦ it's a 200m ascent and 3km from the station, walkable but a little much; bike rentals are planned, else we could have our own electric scooters, could easily drop some down there
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