Those of you in or around London, it'd be great to meet you! Yes in person, albeit maybe not with undue proximity…
Ping me and we can coordinate, I'm around Monday 20th lunch until teatime Weds 22nd. firstname.lastname@example.org +33652516291 facebook.com/events
I'll be off to Italy in August to continue visits. I'm not posting an update on Portugal — except to say a few days before I flew out, the agent for the new candidate I'd posited, told me it'd sold, seeming somewhat surprised. Then another I hastily unearthed also transpired to have sold without being delisted.🙄 We did visit some others but let's just say they fell into the category of not terribly impressive… actually one was a rather nice building, but its locality and capacity debatable, to say nothing of its foundations.
Don't forget you can keep an eye on candidates on the site, for an idea of what I'm finding and might be looking at. hub.house/admin/properties
Hello folks! Been a while hmmm…
We're all rather less nimble than usual and I trust you've all found ways to keep some dynamism alight. ⚡️ I obviously still can't go visit any more properties yet so to keep the project alive, at least in our minds, I did a quick plan for one that seems plausible. In Portugal, more rural, a bit closer to the sea than before, and of course considering the updated criteria… if unsurprisingly impacting costs.
Interesting for fans of mountain biking (me me!) the area hosts an annual cup race (for trailrunning too), though I'm not competitive and prefer going uphill. Rather more fab, this is the river the property is on.Cabril do Ceira by Hugo
As this lockdown shindig is likely to adversely affect some of us, not least I don't know if I'll sell my apartment this year to get things moving… so I'm no longer considering pricier properties. We may yet still have adequate pledges amongst us, and I may find a cofounder to pursue more traditional funding.
With tourism and travel standing as it is, slow and sustainable hospitality presents an opportunity given its more resilient approach.
Do update your pledge if anything's changed, and let me know all your thoughts and situations. I'm keen that we all have opportunity to sit feet in a river, holding a glass of something local, maybe with someone awesome playing ukulele in the background — before any virus might wipe us out.
I've started a page listing other's projects. River who's one of our future board and a likely exchange-network participant, has just made a lovely site live for his project in the Italian mountains. (Fancy having the ability to swap time between places?) Have a ganders and if you know others, add a comment.
I happened to have a chat with the founder of Economadia who'd done a rural coliving trial near Porto a few years back that'd inspired me. Checkout their site as it espouses some common values. There's also a bunch of folks currently working to create and promote a network dedicated to rural eco-conscious coliving (some co-owned), so keep an eye out to see how we might work together—isn't it great there's so much similarity of purpose.
(Incidentally I vaguely define purpose as why and intention as what. Thus Hub House's value of diversity supports us in a variety of 'whats' without being beholden to a single way of living. An intersection of collective approaches!)
Really looking forward to getting back to properties and beyond, yet I'll be wary as we can't know how things may pan out. I am indeed looking for a cofounder (mainly fundraising/commercial) to help move forward and eventually scale up, so if you know someone who might match, pass it on.
To wrap, maybe you can but wonder what's the point of all this talk of socially connected spaces in such times…?
There's an implicit trust in living with housemates, even if only temporarily. When (as opposed if) lockdown happens again, obviously trust couldn't extend to those visiting for just a brief getaway and they'd defer, however for those staying longer the risk of a new arrival is balanced in their value as a community member.
Outsite's CEO blogged about why they're open and it's great to hear how their diverse members use their spaces. If we look at the other side of the spectrum, Coconat are gathering a bunch of folks for slightly longer than usual retreats (under fairly strict house rules) with a bit of a discount in order to cover their costs. Households need to work together to resolve such collective threats. Personally I believe that whatever the risks (preferably mitigated!), being able to share and expand our capacities together is worthwhile, especially during challenging times.
Embrace the bubbles!
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#32 Tobacco Warehouse I like this candidate for a mini‑hub
#94 Union de Coopératives du Cognac Too bad about the cancelled visit! The town looks lovely. About the lack of interesting activities in the area, I agree. It would be preferable if we had that. What would be the next best candidate, in this case?
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We've reached the point at which I have to decide the best path forwards. I've ended the promotional campaigns as there should be enough of us to complete a first phase at the least; withstanding the incorporation this wraps my initial investment into the project. So let's take stock and see where to go! It's those of you who give feedback who'll help decide the plan! 👍
I've actually found solutions for the issues at the lead candidate, Cravinos, so it's back on and I'm psyched for it. But it'll take much longer to do all three buildings (at a relaxed pace, first remains simple) and the contingency budget would need increasing making the total capital higher. (Returned or reinvested if unneeded, could be contractual instead of by vote.)
The updated share cost for a month is thus on the up, presently €1750, but I'm not expending more time updating the figures until I've gotten more feedback… see my updated report, with some quick interior renders of bedrooms and cohousing.
All this has made me consider that maybe we should start with something maybe less ambitious — what do you think?
If you all indicate a preference for something smaller with less risk, I will continue looking. There's a few on the list. We could still do Covilhã after.
Compromise is also possible. Whilst I'm not keen to back a more rural location first, there's a bunch of you who would. #60 Instituit Lamothe-Poulin (southern France) is a distinct possibility, reducing the risks whilst still allowing scaling and extra facilities in future—having both a station and 7ha of land. I'll go visit if you pick it in the following poll!
Otherwise if we're still all on board 🚀 then onwards with Covilhã, I've a pending meeting with the planning department, and a student of the architecture faculty up to help…So, do let us all know know what you vote to support:
[you can choose multiple next; only counted if you've pledged]
yet lots of work, time, capital and risk 🟠✅an all-rounder hub e.g. as abovegood facilities, good base and gatherings
with some compromises, although much less risk 🟠✅a simpler smaller hub TBCbest for retreats/workations
no ensuites but quick and easy 🟠✅any of theseI'm up for anything dynamic and collaborative
Note that small satellite properties are not yet planned — keep an eye on posts in the other people's projects topic. 😉
BTW I'll be proposing a London meetup shortly…
Hey! So good to hear from you! After 4 months in LIsbon, I have to say that Covilhã is really too cold for my taste! I don't know if I can invest in a location like that! What happened to Spain?
On my last property visit (disappointing) I had quite a bit of time to kill thanks to the gaps between buses, so whilst working on a bench beside the river, I found a site used by French notaires to list their client's properties—and I'm not talking auctions, just ordinary sales. I'm thus going back over to Bordeaux to visit #94 Union de Coopératives du Cognac on friday as it looks quite promising. And will hopefully get to checkout what look to be some pretty nice beaches as well as I've never seen the coast around Royan/La Rochelle. Weather accommodating. 😎…☔️
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Ideas on what we might be able to do together as groups within the community and how to achieve them once we 've a hub up and running.
One of my principles for hubs is simply for members to collaborate and form groups that achieve things together—without imposing. 🤝
A fab example is food and I'd love to see a cooking club in which participants collectively prepare meals, maybe taking turns or simply all working together. There could even be multiple competing clubs with different tastes, approaches and timings. There could be a contribution for those not participating, ensuring inclusion without feeling like being a canteen, eventually I think everyone would participate as it could be fun and rewarding even if you hate cooking!
Similarly there could be a gang interested in growing food. Though agriculture and livestock need continuous looking after, and the skills aren't quite so easily learned as cooking, our volunteers however stay longer than most other members, and might be persuaded to participate too.
These have tangible (tasty!) results but many of us seek less tangible ones too. Likely groups will yoga, accountability sessions, maybe even a morning rave (à la Morning Gloryville)! How about skill shares? That'd actually be useful! 😇
These things don't need to be part of some 'official' agenda, it'll just take several members with the same intentions coming together to make it happen. The resident guide ('community manager') and volunteers would nonetheless facilitate to link everyone up. 👍
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Feel free to mention your own or other's you discover for inspiration and to know how the co-ownership coliving movement grows.
Hi there! I am Isadora from Italy living in Portugal. I am leaving all the doors open to my options. I would love to be part of a project here in Portugal but somewhere closet to the beach.
I am also working on a smaller project in Tuscany together with a friend of cohousing, sustainable tourism and local development. In specific, we are planning to buy old beautiful historical buildings and renovate them to create small communities of people who want to cohouse and manage sustainable tourism projects and local projects.
We are in the process of building a website, so, more info coming up soon!
Hello! We are in Japan - and have leased a beautiful, Showa period large house. We are considering now possible live -work inclusions. Since we primarily use this house for cycling excursions in the region. Japan has many dis‑used properties but they are difficult to access without being Japanese (mainly language, process, etc). I'm interested, possibly , to pursuing more of these with some co‑living support.
If anyone wants to see what they are like -- here's our cycling house up in Gunma which is just 2hr from central Tokyo. g.page/astuto‑cc‑kiryu?share
Welcome any feedback, ideas, collab, etc.
Well yikes there's now almost 700 of us signed up and interested in the project. It's past time to better connect everyone together — so welcome to the new forum/mailing list.📯🎊 You'll get email summaries of posts not only from me, but also from any of you whom might fancy participating or even getting together to plot projects.
If you don't want community updates and simply want to join-in with what we create, once we've done so(!) just change your email preferences and profile. You'll still get announcements.
More functionality to be added in due course! In case it wasn't obvious and despite a passion for architecture/space planning, my profession is actually that of a software/usability architect/developer. I'm afraid I was actually having fun working on this thus it's rather later than I had wanted! Currently a bit of a hack although entirely bespoke so as to eventually include things like our voting process. Please say if you find bugs or have ideas to help us all communicate.