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🏬#32 71%  VISIT • €150k • historic • village • 970m² mini-hub

lovely building on edge of village near lake

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central Italy: Perugia
☃️2–9–14°C  🏖31–36°  ☀️14 days  ☔️8 days
OKAY  🔨 effort
OKAY  💰 cost
OKAY  🚃 transport
OKAY  ✈️ access
OKAY  🛒 shops
OKAY  ☀️ climate
OKAY  🏇 activities
DUBIOUS  🏙 towns
OKAY  🏔 nature
OKAY  🌷 garden
OKAY  🏠 building
DUBIOUS  🏘 neighbourhood
OKAY  📡 internet
DUBIOUS  ♻️ sustainability
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Environment mostly flat and cultivated but paths on doorstep to hills (1h walk) and a very large lake with watersports bikeable

Services basics (cafes, food), 15 mins walk to supermarket; 30mins bike to small town, 40mins drive to Perugia (1h bus)

Access good local busses, station 10mins, Florence 1h30, Rome 2h

Property gorgeous internal arches although possibly difficult to plan around; can rebuild the ruined '☃️garden' for extra 160m2 (maybe double if two floors is allowed) and neigbour will sell some adjoining garden of around 1300m2; a vegetable plot is included on opposite side of road

Other Notes roof already renovated
• adjacent part of the same building is also for sale but already renovated thus no value in purchasing
• with extra garden could using ground source heatpump and install solar
• potentially difficult to fit rooms in
• attic 7 bedrooms (3 ensuite, 4 shared), all with one small window, 2 large rooms would need skylights
• 1st floor 7 rooms (3 ensuite, 4 shared) + dorm
• ground floor 8 rooms (all ensuite)
• event space must be in garden

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Jacob Jay🎩 posted to Poll: an alternative approach?

#60 Institut Lamothe-Poulin sold at €65k. I'm going to proceed on registration of the co‑op ASAP so as to issue some preliminary membership contracts and actually know what solid commitments we have amongst us, rather than currently working on the assumption that only myself and a few others would be prepared.

I've earmarked the following for my next visits in the next week or two, so expect more videos!

  • #90 El Batán — in bad shape but cheap so the cost of local workers is probably ok given the excellent location and climate
  • #37 Minoterie de la Chalosse — whilst it has a similar work scope as Covilhã, is much smaller and natural next to a river / good village
  • #89 Complesso San Pietro — I'm in two minds as the countryside seems boring including the beach, good towns though


This is really all there is currently in the realm of reasonableness. Once contracts start being drawn up I'll evaluate more expensive properties, perhaps #78 Proença a Velha, #88 Alcoy. If you've leads or ideas, post them!

River Ferdinandy🧚‍ posted to Hub projects

#32 Tobacco Warehouse could be good :)For Italian properties I already have done all the spreadsheets to calculate IMU (property tax) TASI (some other random tax) and TARI (the garbage tax). These can be significant and depend on the cadastral category, square meters, amount of people. Generally speaking though, Italy is complicated legally, and if we want to have more than 6 rooms and 12 spaces, and also rent to guests for periods less than a month, we get into strange territory legally speaking. I still need to crack this one.

Ciprian Iamandi posted to Hub projects

#32 Tobacco Warehouse I like this candidate for a mini‑hub