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#374 🥉85% €65k • typical • village • 320–370m² of satellite for fitout • village house on mini canal with great surroundings
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Saint-Béat , Pyrenees — near Saint Gaudens, (Tarbes) Google map
☃️10° 🍂14–25° ☀️8 days 🌧11 days ↥500m
Environment: lower mountains, hiking on doorstep, small skiing 10mins, peaks 45mins
Services: minimart, bakery, bar; 15mins bike supermarket; small towns 20/35mins drive
Access: local station 15mins bike, mainline 25mins drive/50 bus; Toulouse 1h45 train (last 5:30pm connecting), Paris 6h30; airports: Tarbes 2h transit, Toulouse 2h45
Regional
Local/Cadastral
Area ✧ bypass road almost finished
✦ village is very quiet
would be in competition with Pyren-escape a couple of valleys across (1h drive), however the Hub House model means there'd be few rooms actually for rental (mainly fractional members) thus not an issue; their rates are €1200/mo for a room, whereas this would be lower due to member model
several peaks of 1700m and can be hiked from the door with one path climbing through woods to reach the top of the escarpment; good serious multi-day hiking as there's lots of refuges, and the coast-to-coast GR10 route passes; some climbing spots, kayaking and horse riding very close; a few minutes drive and there's a small resort for airboard, nordic ski, snowshoe walks, mountain biking, mountain scooter, etc, it has however not recently had enough snowfall to remain open, a moderately ?adventurous smaller peaks surrounding reach 1200">higher resort is 20mins, whilst access to the main peaks are 40mins drive in Spain
✦ climate has good stable number of sunny days all year but obviously colder with no vegetation in winter, although only one month would have any significant risk of snow given the low altitude; the house is at the bottom of a south exposed escarpment, so should benefit; given that winter is quite dreary despite good sun, seasons would be 4–months peak (Jun–Sep) with only a 20% reduction of time, 4-months off (Dec–Mar) with a 40% increase of time, and 4 months standard
✦ with a glass fronted area and hot days in winter still reaching 18° it would remain fairly pleasant but would favour work-focus rather than outdoor focus unless for ski with a car
✦ biking really is quite limited and involves too many steep climbs, however there's a mild 20km circuit around the valley with only 500m for beginners, and some gradual climbs of 1500m over 20km; yet taking the train down to the next village (~15mins bike+train) gives lots of trails around the foothills, similar for going up to the main ski station with gondola
✦ the hill station right next door (15mins drive) offers a shuttle from 15mins bike away and the ski lifts occasionally run for bikes too
there is a small ugly marble quarry at the extrance to the valley and village (which styles itself as a 'town of marble'), but it is hidden behind the escarpment from the village itself
✦ the village has some nice buildings and is fairly presentable but currently has only a minimarket, a bar/wine shop and an occasionally open moroccan restaurant (not bad for diversity at least!); there's two good restaurants in 30mins walk, and a few others plus an auberge up at the little mountain station, plus … in Spain, all 15mins drive, with the Spanish border village also served by bus for some variety
✦ the agent and her partner runs one of the hostel/hotels up at the hillstation
✦ a bike repair shop, ski rental and creperie van have just opened but only occasional
✦ the location is a bit isolated due to not being directly on the railway, and having a bus line that doesn't go anywhere notable, thus most outings are likely to be driving
✦ 4 busses to town for access (7,8,10,2) and back (1,3,5,6:30) though only M–F and a bit slow at 45–55mins; the town is not at all interesting for outings
✦ there's only one other moderate town within reach, Luchon is a ski station and quite well provided for with lots of restaurants; Montrejeau is a large village at 30mins drive
✦ the local station is 15mins bike (easy on a nice back lane, or excessive 45mins walk), and 10mins scooter so it would be necessary to have some making at least getting out easier; both small towns will be 15–20 mins on the local hydrogen train
✦ the small city of Tarbes with airport is 1h drive (longer with transit) and is suitable for occasional days out
✦ whilst not likely, the ski station has 40+140 bed capacity (a hotel, a holiday centre, plus others) often unused, organising larger events would be possible
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✦ village is very quiet
would be in competition with Pyren-escape a couple of valleys across (1h drive), however the Hub House model means there'd be few rooms actually for rental (mainly fractional members) thus not an issue; their rates are €1200/mo for a room, whereas this would be lower due to member model
several peaks of 1700m and can be hiked from the door with one path climbing through woods to reach the top of the escarpment; good serious multi-day hiking as there's lots of refuges, and the coast-to-coast GR10 route passes; some climbing spots, kayaking and horse riding very close; a few minutes drive and there's a small resort for airboard, nordic ski, snowshoe walks, mountain biking, mountain scooter, etc, it has however not recently had enough snowfall to remain open, a moderately ?adventurous smaller peaks surrounding reach 1200">higher resort is 20mins, whilst access to the main peaks are 40mins drive in Spain
✦ climate has good stable number of sunny days all year but obviously colder with no vegetation in winter, although only one month would have any significant risk of snow given the low altitude; the house is at the bottom of a south exposed escarpment, so should benefit; given that winter is quite dreary despite good sun, seasons would be 4–months peak (Jun–Sep) with only a 20% reduction of time, 4-months off (Dec–Mar) with a 40% increase of time, and 4 months standard
✦ with a glass fronted area and hot days in winter still reaching 18° it would remain fairly pleasant but would favour work-focus rather than outdoor focus unless for ski with a car
✦ biking really is quite limited and involves too many steep climbs, however there's a mild 20km circuit around the valley with only 500m for beginners, and some gradual climbs of 1500m over 20km; yet taking the train down to the next village (~15mins bike+train) gives lots of trails around the foothills, similar for going up to the main ski station with gondola
✦ the hill station right next door (15mins drive) offers a shuttle from 15mins bike away and the ski lifts occasionally run for bikes too
there is a small ugly marble quarry at the extrance to the valley and village (which styles itself as a 'town of marble'), but it is hidden behind the escarpment from the village itself
✦ the village has some nice buildings and is fairly presentable but currently has only a minimarket, a bar/wine shop and an occasionally open moroccan restaurant (not bad for diversity at least!); there's two good restaurants in 30mins walk, and a few others plus an auberge up at the little mountain station, plus … in Spain, all 15mins drive, with the Spanish border village also served by bus for some variety
✦ the agent and her partner runs one of the hostel/hotels up at the hillstation
✦ a bike repair shop, ski rental and creperie van have just opened but only occasional
✦ the location is a bit isolated due to not being directly on the railway, and having a bus line that doesn't go anywhere notable, thus most outings are likely to be driving
✦ 4 busses to town for access (7,8,10,2) and back (1,3,5,6:30) though only M–F and a bit slow at 45–55mins; the town is not at all interesting for outings
✦ there's only one other moderate town within reach, Luchon is a ski station and quite well provided for with lots of restaurants; Montrejeau is a large village at 30mins drive
✦ the local station is 15mins bike (easy on a nice back lane, or excessive 45mins walk), and 10mins scooter so it would be necessary to have some making at least getting out easier; both small towns will be 15–20 mins on the local hydrogen train
✦ the small city of Tarbes with airport is 1h drive (longer with transit) and is suitable for occasional days out
✦ whilst not likely, the ski station has 40+140 bed capacity (a hotel, a holiday centre, plus others) often unused, organising larger events would be possible
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Property ✧ also see #144 next door at same price, larger but no garden
there is a good reasons for the low property cost:
✧ the village had a major flood in 2013 with shops and camping destroyed, and prior every 10–20 years, plus further less notable ones in 2018 and 2022; it is on the upper Garonne river with a narrow passage through escarpments which the village is built at the base of and with high flow it backs up; flooding will certainly continue as with warming the mountain snow and ice melts too quickly; during the 2013 flood probably water rose probably to nearly 1m above the basement floor [photo] so would remain s significant risk, a warning system exists giving time to put in place door barriers, however doors could easily be outwards opening with full seals, yet the frequency already seems problematic
2 buildings (parcel 165) backing onto the lane behind the canal and fronting onto the canal with a 60m2 section of garden, plus a footbridge across to 200m2 of more garden (parcel 150)
✦ the big fir tree next to the road has been cut down, and the tree next to the canal has been cut back, so some degree of privacy would be needed, but easily acheived with a part wall part pergola and some small cypress/firs
✦ orangerie would be best placed in the adjacent garden but would block the neighbour thus most likely across and backing onto the next neighbours tall breezeblock wall
ground 140m2 usable, 1st 130m2 though this has a south facing 10m2 veranda (plus 2 east facing juliet balconies), attics ~100m2 mostly usable but best suited to pods, has 2 dormers suitable for rooms, plus a few skylights but would need more
✦ in quite poor condition and does not yet have elec or water connection, but roof has had repairs and skylights are modern
✦ for sale since at least 2014, was actually bought in 2020 for 40k and presumably back to market after the 2022 flood, thus some scope for negotiation considering the only nominal effort on works thus far
✦ the tiny adjacent property on the lane is for sale at 45k for 60m2 (parcel 166)
✦ the neighbour at the front (parcel 149) was also for sale following a purchase for 62k in 2022, with a barely begun renovation, it'd offer about 250m2 and it's ground is considerably higher
there is a good reasons for the low property cost:
✧ the village had a major flood in 2013 with shops and camping destroyed, and prior every 10–20 years, plus further less notable ones in 2018 and 2022; it is on the upper Garonne river with a narrow passage through escarpments which the village is built at the base of and with high flow it backs up; flooding will certainly continue as with warming the mountain snow and ice melts too quickly; during the 2013 flood probably water rose probably to nearly 1m above the basement floor [photo] so would remain s significant risk, a warning system exists giving time to put in place door barriers, however doors could easily be outwards opening with full seals, yet the frequency already seems problematic
2 buildings (parcel 165) backing onto the lane behind the canal and fronting onto the canal with a 60m2 section of garden, plus a footbridge across to 200m2 of more garden (parcel 150)
✦ the big fir tree next to the road has been cut down, and the tree next to the canal has been cut back, so some degree of privacy would be needed, but easily acheived with a part wall part pergola and some small cypress/firs
✦ orangerie would be best placed in the adjacent garden but would block the neighbour thus most likely across and backing onto the next neighbours tall breezeblock wall
ground 140m2 usable, 1st 130m2 though this has a south facing 10m2 veranda (plus 2 east facing juliet balconies), attics ~100m2 mostly usable but best suited to pods, has 2 dormers suitable for rooms, plus a few skylights but would need more
✦ in quite poor condition and does not yet have elec or water connection, but roof has had repairs and skylights are modern
✦ for sale since at least 2014, was actually bought in 2020 for 40k and presumably back to market after the 2022 flood, thus some scope for negotiation considering the only nominal effort on works thus far
✦ the tiny adjacent property on the lane is for sale at 45k for 60m2 (parcel 166)
✦ the neighbour at the front (parcel 149) was also for sale following a purchase for 62k in 2022, with a barely begun renovation, it'd offer about 250m2 and it's ground is considerably higher
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