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#381 🥇95% PICK • €90k • typical • town • 550m² of minihub for optimisations • 15–25👥 • surprisngly large in well positioned town centre • balancing mountains and city as an excellent lower-end option offering pretty much everything but due to size needs a fair bit of refit work
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Pamiers, central Pyrenees — near Foix, (Toulouse) Google map (exact; regional approx.)
☃️3–12–21°☀️8☁️11 • 🍂14–26°☀️8☁️10
Environment: river, agricultural plains, wooded ridges, mountains close
Services: all
Access: station 10mins walk: Toulouse 1h €5 (last 9:45pm) +45mins airport; Barcelona 4h45
Regional
Local/Cadastral
Area ✧ the moderately lively town of Pamiers (only 16k pop.) encircled by a water channel, and being the largest in an otherwise quiet department, sitting next to the bottom of the Pyrenees and France's 3rd city down in the middle of the plains
✦ just completed a notable improvement to its main square, now pedestrianised and located just 100m away(!), uncovering canals and adding public spaces, plus there's additional upcoming plans, notably the square next to the cathedral
multiple restaurants including african, indian, portuguese, vietnamese, …
✦ small supermarket at door, 3 big ones 30mins walk/bus
✦ 5min to small canal gardens, and new public spaces along it; there's also 2 other small green spaces
✦ can easily do pleasant strolls around town with a full circle of the canals taking 35mins
✦ only 1 riverside walk starting 15mins on lanes with part loop variants climbing 150m
✦ couple of basic rides from door mainly farm tracks, and a greenway to Mirepoix (1h30) but decent biking doesn't start for 40mins; in any case there's lots of great hikes and biking, plus a better greenway, from all the next stations
✦ trains to Foix 15mins, Tarascon 30mins (hikes reaching 2000m), Ax 1h with gondola and bikepark (2300m)
✦ Mirepoix 30mins bus, and onwards to Montsegur cathar castle
✦ tennis 20mins walk / 5 bike (2 covered courts)
✦ SUP, kayking, rafting, climbing etc all close and possible by quick train
✦ lake 45mins drive
✦ Carcassonne 1h drive
a minibus would not be required as much is accessible by transit, but would still be good for remoter hikes and exploring
✦ Paris 6h €45 (last 3pm/10pm)
✦ nighttrain fri/sat in, sat/sun out
✦ because of the lateish 9:45pm connection (a bus, except fri) many flights would be workable
✦ it's possible to arrive from Barcelona (15:30–20:20 R3,TER) with a single 30min change at the top of the Pyrenees, alternatively via Toulouse in a similar time but with 2 changes; it's hoped that a direct Barcelona-Toulouse train will be reintroduced
winters (dec–feb) are not appealing, most of the year is quite green with regular rain but few fully clean sunny days even in summer (probably a good thing) and few overcast
unusually the town has a massive functioning ironworks in its centre since the 1800s, manufacturing cast and rolled parts for military and aerospace; I've seen reports of noise, but it does not use a hammer so seems unlikely to be notable, and in any case isn't a problem indoors, nor likely even especially outdoors except in the parks but I suspect most outdoor time would be up in the hills
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✦ just completed a notable improvement to its main square, now pedestrianised and located just 100m away(!), uncovering canals and adding public spaces, plus there's additional upcoming plans, notably the square next to the cathedral
multiple restaurants including african, indian, portuguese, vietnamese, …
✦ small supermarket at door, 3 big ones 30mins walk/bus
✦ 5min to small canal gardens, and new public spaces along it; there's also 2 other small green spaces
✦ can easily do pleasant strolls around town with a full circle of the canals taking 35mins
✦ only 1 riverside walk starting 15mins on lanes with part loop variants climbing 150m
✦ couple of basic rides from door mainly farm tracks, and a greenway to Mirepoix (1h30) but decent biking doesn't start for 40mins; in any case there's lots of great hikes and biking, plus a better greenway, from all the next stations
✦ trains to Foix 15mins, Tarascon 30mins (hikes reaching 2000m), Ax 1h with gondola and bikepark (2300m)
✦ Mirepoix 30mins bus, and onwards to Montsegur cathar castle
✦ tennis 20mins walk / 5 bike (2 covered courts)
✦ SUP, kayking, rafting, climbing etc all close and possible by quick train
✦ lake 45mins drive
✦ Carcassonne 1h drive
a minibus would not be required as much is accessible by transit, but would still be good for remoter hikes and exploring
✦ Paris 6h €45 (last 3pm/10pm)
✦ nighttrain fri/sat in, sat/sun out
✦ because of the lateish 9:45pm connection (a bus, except fri) many flights would be workable
✦ it's possible to arrive from Barcelona (15:30–20:20 R3,TER) with a single 30min change at the top of the Pyrenees, alternatively via Toulouse in a similar time but with 2 changes; it's hoped that a direct Barcelona-Toulouse train will be reintroduced
winters (dec–feb) are not appealing, most of the year is quite green with regular rain but few fully clean sunny days even in summer (probably a good thing) and few overcast
unusually the town has a massive functioning ironworks in its centre since the 1800s, manufacturing cast and rolled parts for military and aerospace; I've seen reports of noise, but it does not use a hammer so seems unlikely to be notable, and in any case isn't a problem indoors, nor likely even especially outdoors except in the parks but I suspect most outdoor time would be up in the hills
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Property ✧ whilst a bit pricey for the lower end of things, is nonetheless good value for the impressive size in a decent town and location, and part usable
✦ was bought for €87k in 2023 so has clearly run into financial issues given the market is making raising finance for projects hard; they're unlikely to accept a further loss so this will be the bottom line for a while
the cited usable surface of 560m2 is mainly due to the ground floor having a mezzanine level so what could be acheived would be slightly less
✦ unusually laid out having only one frontage onto a nondescript lane just around teh corner/100m from the main square
✦ currently only 130m2 habitable prob just 1st floor, condition not stated, probably very tired but functioning, whilst seemingly solid and in decent condition, needs a full refit within
✦ windows temporarily acceptable but would need replacing and some enlarging, garage door would need immediately replacing as has no front entrance at all
✦ facade would need stripping eventually
could be family-friendly at times; could potentially function as a minihub with public coworking but not much point
two outdoor spaces
✧ 35m2 1st floor courtyard, part orangerie for winter with lots of greenery
✧ 20m2 south roof terrace with BBQ and kitchen overlooking courtyard
8 ensuite rooms, 7 monk rooms, 6+ pods (makes the variance between low use and high quite significant being 15–25! nonethless a good size similar to Circles)
✦ no views anywhere, but the spaces would be good and spacious
ground with high celings would provide focus coworking onto lane (south); kitchen-dining-casual-events with orangerie light wells (centre); a movie-lounge-playroom with fireplace (north)
✦ 1st would be 3 ensuite rooms (south windows); 5 monk rooms (centre); bathrooms, a mixed-use sunny casual lounge/workspace onto the courtyard (north)
✦ 2nd would be sunny library (south); 3-5 ensuite mezzanine rooms (around centre), plus pods
works needn't be unreasonably and would be easily spread out over time; most of the ground floor would be easy to refit just needing creativity to fill the space; ensuite bedrooms would need new partitions with full works, whilst pods/small rooms and other common spaces are simple; roof terrace wouldn't be significant and access would be fairly easy given the raised courtyard; even opening this open needn't be difficult as sealing would be done from above under glass as a green house/orangerie
parcel #1289 large 234m2 footprint
✦ two garage doors onto south lane, one massive though no sun
✦ ~200m2 ground floor split into mezzanine, which would mostly be removed for good height making up for a lack of light, but could retain part for pods
✦ ~135m2 for 1st and 2nd
✦ south 7.8m deep, 7m across for 2.3m per window on south, prob2 on north
✦ north 5m deep, 8m across, 2 windows on south -- apparently no windows nor access on north, possibly some small portholes could be added for light into ground floor; too much work to add anything else
✦ 11m wing between the two buildings facing east, 3.3m deep 3 windows
✦ great for 3 mezzanine units on 2nd; 2.4m deep 3.6 wide (8.6m), plus 4m2 mezzanine over narrow corridor
✦ 55m2 1st floor courtyard/roof terrace 5m2 deep x 11m2, however this prevents light to groun which thus onyl gets at end, therefore 2 sections would be removed and replaced with a 2-storey orangerie; one prob 10m2 with stairs to 1st floor, one smaller and just open; neitehr woudl reduce usable space except in courtyard which is big anyway
✦ prob 60m2 of attics possible but no windows nor access
✦ wing would have space for good mezzanines
✦ shoudl remove part of roof for excllent private terrace over courtyard, probably 18m2 of the north section, retaining a small strip of tiles above a BBQ / outdoor kitchen
✦ buildings in front at south are lower so 1st and 2nd get sun
tax likely currently around €1000 but would reach €2–3k
✦ was bought for €87k in 2023 so has clearly run into financial issues given the market is making raising finance for projects hard; they're unlikely to accept a further loss so this will be the bottom line for a while
the cited usable surface of 560m2 is mainly due to the ground floor having a mezzanine level so what could be acheived would be slightly less
✦ unusually laid out having only one frontage onto a nondescript lane just around teh corner/100m from the main square
✦ currently only 130m2 habitable prob just 1st floor, condition not stated, probably very tired but functioning, whilst seemingly solid and in decent condition, needs a full refit within
✦ windows temporarily acceptable but would need replacing and some enlarging, garage door would need immediately replacing as has no front entrance at all
✦ facade would need stripping eventually
could be family-friendly at times; could potentially function as a minihub with public coworking but not much point
two outdoor spaces
✧ 35m2 1st floor courtyard, part orangerie for winter with lots of greenery
✧ 20m2 south roof terrace with BBQ and kitchen overlooking courtyard
8 ensuite rooms, 7 monk rooms, 6+ pods (makes the variance between low use and high quite significant being 15–25! nonethless a good size similar to Circles)
✦ no views anywhere, but the spaces would be good and spacious
ground with high celings would provide focus coworking onto lane (south); kitchen-dining-casual-events with orangerie light wells (centre); a movie-lounge-playroom with fireplace (north)
✦ 1st would be 3 ensuite rooms (south windows); 5 monk rooms (centre); bathrooms, a mixed-use sunny casual lounge/workspace onto the courtyard (north)
✦ 2nd would be sunny library (south); 3-5 ensuite mezzanine rooms (around centre), plus pods
works needn't be unreasonably and would be easily spread out over time; most of the ground floor would be easy to refit just needing creativity to fill the space; ensuite bedrooms would need new partitions with full works, whilst pods/small rooms and other common spaces are simple; roof terrace wouldn't be significant and access would be fairly easy given the raised courtyard; even opening this open needn't be difficult as sealing would be done from above under glass as a green house/orangerie
parcel #1289 large 234m2 footprint
✦ two garage doors onto south lane, one massive though no sun
✦ ~200m2 ground floor split into mezzanine, which would mostly be removed for good height making up for a lack of light, but could retain part for pods
✦ ~135m2 for 1st and 2nd
✦ south 7.8m deep, 7m across for 2.3m per window on south, prob2 on north
✦ north 5m deep, 8m across, 2 windows on south -- apparently no windows nor access on north, possibly some small portholes could be added for light into ground floor; too much work to add anything else
✦ 11m wing between the two buildings facing east, 3.3m deep 3 windows
✦ great for 3 mezzanine units on 2nd; 2.4m deep 3.6 wide (8.6m), plus 4m2 mezzanine over narrow corridor
✦ 55m2 1st floor courtyard/roof terrace 5m2 deep x 11m2, however this prevents light to groun which thus onyl gets at end, therefore 2 sections would be removed and replaced with a 2-storey orangerie; one prob 10m2 with stairs to 1st floor, one smaller and just open; neitehr woudl reduce usable space except in courtyard which is big anyway
✦ prob 60m2 of attics possible but no windows nor access
✦ wing would have space for good mezzanines
✦ shoudl remove part of roof for excllent private terrace over courtyard, probably 18m2 of the north section, retaining a small strip of tiles above a BBQ / outdoor kitchen
✦ buildings in front at south are lower so 1st and 2nd get sun
tax likely currently around €1000 but would reach €2–3k
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