61 Huguet
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#403 🥇92% PICK • €47k • unusual • village • 315–365m² of satellite for optimisation • 10–14👥 • tatty esoteric buildings in hills with station • offmarket
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Cierp-Gaud, Pyrenees — near (Tarbes, Toulouse)
☃️-1–7–16°☀️3☁️3 • 🍂11–22°☀️4☁️3 ⇧450m
environment
lower mountains, hiking on doorstep, gondola skiing 15mins
servicesbakery, supermarket 15mins walk; towns 25mins train
accesslocal station 15mins walk: Toulouse 1h30 changing, Paris 7h or overnight; airports: Tarbes 1h, Toulouse 2h
area
✧ bakery next door, 10mins supermarket, weekly market; good resto across the road, plus bistrot/bar
✦ train 15mins Luchon (last 7:30pm; or 25mins bus from door)
✦ 5mins to nice riverside public garden, and tennis court
✦ (the road in front has no traffic)
on a local rail line, with connections for Toulouse (just 10mins wait) running new hydrogen trains from 2027; access is quite good, 30mins from mainline with last 9pm (Toulouse 7:30pm)
✦ location thus doesn't need a vehicle nor driving, but better with so a minibus would still be added, albeit perhaps later
unremarkable but pleasant village on a small river
✦ the notable small town of Luchon just 15mins train, with the well known ski station of Superbagnères (gondola; hiking/bikepark in summer) and a thermal spa, so being a lightly touristic destination the town is quite well provided for with a covered market hall and lots of restos
✦ there are of course others and villages
✦ the small city of Tarbes with airport is 1h drive (longer with transit) so suitable for occasional day trip
despite being near the bottom of the valley is also very close to the Spanish border, just 25mins drive (or bus) to the first village with restos
paths starts 5–15mins up lane with extensive climbs, more gentle zig-zag firetracks through steep woods, or along the bottom of the valley
✦ the peaks surrounding are mostly around 1600m but one is 2100m, all can be hiked from the door; also good serious multi-day hiking as there's lots of refuges
✦ some climbing spots, kayaking and horse riding very close; 20mins drive are 2 other small resorts for airboard, nordic ski, snowshoe walks, mountain biking, mountain scooter, etc, however not recently had enough snowfall to remain open; 25mins walk/10 bike/bus to adventure centre with via ferrata; hikes to major peaks 30mins climbing to lakes and 2500m+; big indoor climbing centre (12.5m) 20mins bus
Jul–Aug would be peak season, the (brand new) Luchon gondola is only open these months (plus ski season); winter would remain open at special rates, with a supplement during a 3-week xmas/nye special, plus skiing (late Jan–Feb) the remainder of feb and early march would prob be closed
✦ climate has good stable number of sunny days all year but obviously colder with no vegtation in winter, although only one month would have any significant risk of snow despite the low altitude; with winter still reaching 18° it would remain fairly pleasant but would favour work-focus rather than outdoor focus except during snow
there's actually colivings in both adjacent valleys, yet they only have bus access, one at 1h20 train +40mins bus, the other 40mins train +2h30 on 2 buses being deeper into the mountains, this locatiton is 1h30 train; each would have a slightly different focus however this location might win for the transport and nice little town (neither the others have), plus this property will be fitout specifically for coliving, one does have a very nice building, the other is a hotchpotch with nominal workspace; one is 50mins drive thus meetups could occasionally be combiend half way somewhere, the other is nearly 2h but again half-way meetups possible
property detail ↗︎
✦ train 15mins Luchon (last 7:30pm; or 25mins bus from door)
✦ 5mins to nice riverside public garden, and tennis court
✦ (the road in front has no traffic)
on a local rail line, with connections for Toulouse (just 10mins wait) running new hydrogen trains from 2027; access is quite good, 30mins from mainline with last 9pm (Toulouse 7:30pm)
✦ location thus doesn't need a vehicle nor driving, but better with so a minibus would still be added, albeit perhaps later
unremarkable but pleasant village on a small river
✦ the notable small town of Luchon just 15mins train, with the well known ski station of Superbagnères (gondola; hiking/bikepark in summer) and a thermal spa, so being a lightly touristic destination the town is quite well provided for with a covered market hall and lots of restos
✦ there are of course others and villages
✦ the small city of Tarbes with airport is 1h drive (longer with transit) so suitable for occasional day trip
despite being near the bottom of the valley is also very close to the Spanish border, just 25mins drive (or bus) to the first village with restos
paths starts 5–15mins up lane with extensive climbs, more gentle zig-zag firetracks through steep woods, or along the bottom of the valley
✦ the peaks surrounding are mostly around 1600m but one is 2100m, all can be hiked from the door; also good serious multi-day hiking as there's lots of refuges
✦ some climbing spots, kayaking and horse riding very close; 20mins drive are 2 other small resorts for airboard, nordic ski, snowshoe walks, mountain biking, mountain scooter, etc, however not recently had enough snowfall to remain open; 25mins walk/10 bike/bus to adventure centre with via ferrata; hikes to major peaks 30mins climbing to lakes and 2500m+; big indoor climbing centre (12.5m) 20mins bus
Jul–Aug would be peak season, the (brand new) Luchon gondola is only open these months (plus ski season); winter would remain open at special rates, with a supplement during a 3-week xmas/nye special, plus skiing (late Jan–Feb) the remainder of feb and early march would prob be closed
✦ climate has good stable number of sunny days all year but obviously colder with no vegtation in winter, although only one month would have any significant risk of snow despite the low altitude; with winter still reaching 18° it would remain fairly pleasant but would favour work-focus rather than outdoor focus except during snow
there's actually colivings in both adjacent valleys, yet they only have bus access, one at 1h20 train +40mins bus, the other 40mins train +2h30 on 2 buses being deeper into the mountains, this locatiton is 1h30 train; each would have a slightly different focus however this location might win for the transport and nice little town (neither the others have), plus this property will be fitout specifically for coliving, one does have a very nice building, the other is a hotchpotch with nominal workspace; one is 50mins drive thus meetups could occasionally be combiend half way somewhere, the other is nearly 2h but again half-way meetups possible
property detail ↗︎
property
✧ vist rescheduled for early july
✦ last listed at 69k, even the current price isn't great compared the 480m2 hotel-resto opposite which sold for 99k yet…
is very well placed and whilst the property looks quiteshabby and even odd, could actually achieve a very usable and nice conversion
✦ a better option in the same effort/price range is #393 at the end of the valley, making daytrips to both Toulouse and Tarbes possible by train however this does not seem an especially worthwhile attraction, this with better nature on the doorstep is better despite being quite a bit smaller yet with expansion potential
initial capacity: 6 rooms (all ensuite) plus 6 very generous capsules
✦ additional work: 2 extra rooms; could be undertaken with limited impact
an odd set of buildings cobbled together, ideally needs some nominal rebuilding to maximise but actually would be fine without
✦ not usable as is mainly because messy with no functional space, but some rooms and bathrooms almost usable
✦ new double-glazing has been installed including the front door, but unfortunately only PVC, the front windows were not replaced
✦ several rooms in the back section have decent wood floors; some wall insulation has been started
front exposure is south-east (looses direct sun after midday bit longer winter)
✦ the middle section has a double-height sloped roof which would be interesting but is wasterful of space and hard to heat (recirculation would partly solve this)
✦ the middle has an unusual sets of stairs that part in two directions mid way and could become a nice feature
✦ esoteric facade could be made novel with some patching up, paint and climbing plants
✦ slate roofs seemingly ok
could generously give 4 different common spaces
✧ casual, ground front/entrance: large bright with outlook and large windows, desks and sofas
✧ interactive, ground middle: medium muted kitchen-dining with sofa, possibly standing bar;
✧ adaptable, 1st middle: medium light no view but central throughfare through building, multi-use space with many sofas for films and talks
✧ library, 1st front: tiny light with outlook and balcony, desks and sofa
✦ for the capacity this is excessive only 2 are required, but the main lounge has no outlook
ground
✧ front: 50m2 10 desks, 3 sofas, bikes/storage
✧ middle: 40m2 kitchen, dining (15), pantry
✧ back: 3 pods, shower, toilet
✦ 1st
✧ front: 2 ensuites (with balcony), library (4 desks, sofa, balcony)
✧ middle: 25m2 multi-use lounge, windows overlooking neighbour's yard (would eventually be converted to 2 more rooms with lounge moved to newbuild on roof)
✧ back: 3 cells, 2 showers
✦ 2nd
✧ back: 2 ensuites (windows no views)
✧ roof terrace: callroom, summer kitchen, laundry, orangerie
✦ 3rd (in roof but very steep, so fully usable)
✧ 2 ensuite rooms with good views
a. as above, no further works, revenue reduced due to 2 rooms less, also lower appeal due to lounge having no views
✦ b. additional build: (goal) smaller 25m2 lounge on rooftop terrace with good view, 1st middle would become 2 rooms; the library would add 2 desks exclusively as focus workspace; roof would be flat with additional terrace
✦ c. rebuild middle: an extra floor with the lounge, opening onto the full roof terrace, having another roof terrace above, thus doubling the roof terrace, this could also add 1 further room
once the new lounge middle 1st is converted more light will be needed at the ground kitchen thus either:
✧ could add a high side window in the middle for the kitchen, or glass blocks
✧ the roof over the stairs could add a skylight, throwing light down the stairs which would be desireable but more work and cost
parcel 873 157m2
✧ advertised as 9 bedrooms, 4 bathrooms; empty from before 2008 but then someone moved and did clothes repairs, with renovation haphazardly started around 2015 thus 10 years ago
✧ front 52m2; 2 floors; 7m deep, 6.5m wide
✧ middle 38m2; 2 floors, with 1/3 open to roof thus making 1st more of a mezzanine; stairs at side; 4.5m deep
✧ end 28m2; 4 floors, else 1st has mezzanine; 4m deep 6.5 wide;
✧ ground 120m2, front 4 windows/doors across, very small elevated windows on side, no others(!)
✧ 1st 4 windows across, and 1 side window; middle long side window,
✧ 2nd 2 rear windows
✧ 3rd end 2 dormer front windows, 2 tiny high rear
tax likely ~€2000 post work, ~€1k currently
✦ advertised on municipal site
✦ last listed at 69k, even the current price isn't great compared the 480m2 hotel-resto opposite which sold for 99k yet…
is very well placed and whilst the property looks quiteshabby and even odd, could actually achieve a very usable and nice conversion
✦ a better option in the same effort/price range is #393 at the end of the valley, making daytrips to both Toulouse and Tarbes possible by train however this does not seem an especially worthwhile attraction, this with better nature on the doorstep is better despite being quite a bit smaller yet with expansion potential
initial capacity: 6 rooms (all ensuite) plus 6 very generous capsules
✦ additional work: 2 extra rooms; could be undertaken with limited impact
an odd set of buildings cobbled together, ideally needs some nominal rebuilding to maximise but actually would be fine without
✦ not usable as is mainly because messy with no functional space, but some rooms and bathrooms almost usable
✦ new double-glazing has been installed including the front door, but unfortunately only PVC, the front windows were not replaced
✦ several rooms in the back section have decent wood floors; some wall insulation has been started
front exposure is south-east (looses direct sun after midday bit longer winter)
✦ the middle section has a double-height sloped roof which would be interesting but is wasterful of space and hard to heat (recirculation would partly solve this)
✦ the middle has an unusual sets of stairs that part in two directions mid way and could become a nice feature
✦ esoteric facade could be made novel with some patching up, paint and climbing plants
✦ slate roofs seemingly ok
could generously give 4 different common spaces
✧ casual, ground front/entrance: large bright with outlook and large windows, desks and sofas
✧ interactive, ground middle: medium muted kitchen-dining with sofa, possibly standing bar;
✧ adaptable, 1st middle: medium light no view but central throughfare through building, multi-use space with many sofas for films and talks
✧ library, 1st front: tiny light with outlook and balcony, desks and sofa
✦ for the capacity this is excessive only 2 are required, but the main lounge has no outlook
ground
✧ front: 50m2 10 desks, 3 sofas, bikes/storage
✧ middle: 40m2 kitchen, dining (15), pantry
✧ back: 3 pods, shower, toilet
✦ 1st
✧ front: 2 ensuites (with balcony), library (4 desks, sofa, balcony)
✧ middle: 25m2 multi-use lounge, windows overlooking neighbour's yard (would eventually be converted to 2 more rooms with lounge moved to newbuild on roof)
✧ back: 3 cells, 2 showers
✦ 2nd
✧ back: 2 ensuites (windows no views)
✧ roof terrace: callroom, summer kitchen, laundry, orangerie
✦ 3rd (in roof but very steep, so fully usable)
✧ 2 ensuite rooms with good views
a. as above, no further works, revenue reduced due to 2 rooms less, also lower appeal due to lounge having no views
✦ b. additional build: (goal) smaller 25m2 lounge on rooftop terrace with good view, 1st middle would become 2 rooms; the library would add 2 desks exclusively as focus workspace; roof would be flat with additional terrace
✦ c. rebuild middle: an extra floor with the lounge, opening onto the full roof terrace, having another roof terrace above, thus doubling the roof terrace, this could also add 1 further room
once the new lounge middle 1st is converted more light will be needed at the ground kitchen thus either:
✧ could add a high side window in the middle for the kitchen, or glass blocks
✧ the roof over the stairs could add a skylight, throwing light down the stairs which would be desireable but more work and cost
parcel 873 157m2
✧ advertised as 9 bedrooms, 4 bathrooms; empty from before 2008 but then someone moved and did clothes repairs, with renovation haphazardly started around 2015 thus 10 years ago
✧ front 52m2; 2 floors; 7m deep, 6.5m wide
✧ middle 38m2; 2 floors, with 1/3 open to roof thus making 1st more of a mezzanine; stairs at side; 4.5m deep
✧ end 28m2; 4 floors, else 1st has mezzanine; 4m deep 6.5 wide;
✧ ground 120m2, front 4 windows/doors across, very small elevated windows on side, no others(!)
✧ 1st 4 windows across, and 1 side window; middle long side window,
✧ 2nd 2 rear windows
✧ 3rd end 2 dormer front windows, 2 tiny high rear
tax likely ~€2000 post work, ~€1k currently
✦ advertised on municipal site
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