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#285 🥇86%   €60k • historic • village • 400m² satellite • 14👤20👥great building and nature in pleasant mountain village
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Vernet, Catalogne nord — near Prades, (Perpignan)
☃️3–10–18°☀️8☁️10 • 🍂13–23°☀️7☁️10 ↥650m
GOOD  🔨 effort
GOOD  🚌 transport
OKAY  ✈️ access
GOOD  🛒 shops
OKAY  🏙 towns
GOOD  🧗 activities
GOOD  ☀️ climate
GREAT  ⛰️ nature
OKAY  🌷 garden
GOOD  🏠 building
GOOD  ⛲️ hood
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Environment ✧ forested mountains and rocky canyons; hikes from door; beach 1h

Services ✧ cornershop, restos/cafes, supermarket 20mins walk; market

Access ✧ bus at door; station 10mins drive, Perpignan 1h30 transit (last 7:30pm); +Barcelona 1h30 / Paris 5h

Area ✧ VISTED 3/5/24; Video
quite elevated but nice amount of sun in winter and brief snow, indeed there's even palm trees
✦ I'm not keen on mountain locations, but this elevation is a nice compromise between rugged wilderness and a more livable environment; I've been here with some snow as a kid and it's quite pleasant plus brief, not to mention climate change since then…
✦ the environment is lush and full of lovely trees, not to mention gushing water (at least in the spring, not sure about late summer…) and the air smells lovely
village is presentable if somewhat missing life in its small public square where there's just a resto and cafe/bar
✦ neighbourhood is only really 'good' because of a lovely public garden and green spaces along the river though this has a big (stone) retaining wall
✦ has moderate thermal curist tourism Apr–Nov (mostly old folks of course), some were doing tai-chi in the public park, and there were quite a few tourists doing the hike up to the waterfalls
✦ local town of Prades is 20mins bus (last 8:45pm) with a good twice weekly market
✦ village also has a small twice weekly market
✦ one good French resto plus an Indian(!)
✦ good hikes including ravines and waterfalls (suitable for a dip) plus straight to the peak of the famous Canigou (2700m) in 8–10h overnighting in a refuge
15mins bike 10mins bus to fortified village with better restos and station with the mountain train, and Perpignan in 45mins; the only big town in striking distance, is moderately lively, however too far for outings by transit (1h30) and whilst not unreasonable at ~1h with a 10min dropoff, the centre itself is another 15min walk
good mix of biking some marked right from the door
✦ tennis and horse riding 10mins walk
✦ secret hot springs and suspended canyon hike 30mins drive
✦ the station is 15mins bike thus one can take the train up for more impressive trails / decscents
✦ flat sandy beaches within reach, also an inland etang for wind/kitesurfing; with just abit more driving (1h15+) the rocky beaches around Collioure are possible for a day trip stopping along the way
✦ skiing 1h drive
train is super for Barcelona and good for changes to the UK and northern europe through Paris
✦ airport serves Agadir all year (nomad connections) though its Lisbon route was recently removed but may return for winters; London-Stansted seasonally; Barcelona provides the best interchange with train taking 1h30
PropertyDiagnostics (PDF) 23/3/24 dropped significantly from 130k to sell ASAP

was tempted to put a deposit down but not convinced due the remote-ish location (really needs more size to make up for it); whilst it's a great offer there's decent choice of properties in the under 100k range elsewhere and with lower tax


presentable building from outside but other than the large windows is plain inside
✦ no garden but in addition to the public garden and riverside, there's also a hillside winter garden a stone's throw
✦ all east windows are large but loose sun a bit before midday, 1st floor has a full length balcony, 2nd outset juliet balconcies with top window, 3rd juliet but standard height
✦ easy to enlarge south-west windows on the other side with juliet balconies as a sunroom
roof is in excellent condition but requires some work to cleanup a collapsed chimney on it
✦ some fairly minor termite chomping (hardly unusual in the region), one on some flooring is definately vacated; two beams would be fairly easy to replace but don't look too bad and would be much more easily re-enforced, and finally one door surround which would be replaced anyway
four floors, plus basement of almost similar size, but having a dividing load bearing wall; the stairway can be reconstructed to give access and the existing mini stairs removed
basement: storage and shed; 40m2 snug/movies/kneesup events (one glass door for light)
✦ ground: 75m2 casual workspace with 11 desks + lounge + bikes
✦ 1st: 75m2 kitchen, dining, hangout
✦ 2nd: 1 plus microstudio 18m2, 3 plus ensuites (11m2) with balconies, 2 ensuites
✦ 3rd: 3 ensuites, 45m2 library with 7 focus desks
✦ 4th: 4 basic 6m2 (1 twin/double) with juliet balconies, 5 pods, 4 bathrooms, callroom
✦ 13 rooms, 5 pods
✦ note: no yoga space, there's nice parks!
structure is good; waste pipes are all asbestos cement but could potentially be kept, if not are mostly simply hanging from the exterior thus easy to remove
✦ ground floor facade need stripping and refinishing
✦ sections of damp infliltration from the neighbour's terrace at ground (next to stairs) and basement, but simple stripping and refinishing, plus sealing outside
✦ lead paint presence is limited to door and window frames, which would simply be replaced, with the exception of one small section of wall
eventually the nasty cement finish on the back should be stripped
possibly partly usable with nominal work but the plumbing is questionable
✦ has piped gas
no load bearing walls, thus easily stripped for refit
✦ the floors are very lightweight so would need insulation but could simply be laid over the existing boards
4 floors of 85m2
✦ attic unsuitable for mezzanines but very nice to simply open up
✦ full height cellars having almost the same footprint, plus doors onto the lane that could become big windows thus making this space useful

tax is BAD at 5k/year (same as Beziers!) representing about €45/month/room or €550/year of increased contributions versus cheaper locations, is not terrible, but does push up the cost of ownership to unacceptable levels given it'd only be for a room; could be reduced by reclassifying


✦ the property next door is also for sale (several hotels here have been on the market including a massive old one just up the road for a pittance)
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