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#304 🥇95% REJECT • €280k • standout • town • 500m² hub • smallish for the price yet excellent value for its wide benefits
GOOD 🔨 effort
GREAT 🚌 transport
GOOD ✈️ access
GREAT 🛒 shops
GREAT 🏙 towns
GREAT 🧗 activities
OKAY ☀️ climate
GOOD ⛰️ nature
GREAT 🌷 garden
GREAT 🏠 building
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Lourdes, central Pyrenees — near Tarbes, Pau, (Toulouse)
☃️2–10–17°☀️3☁️4 • 🍂14–26°☀️4☁️3 ↥400m
☃️2–10–17°☀️3☁️4 • 🍂14–26°☀️4☁️3 ↥400m
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Environment ✧ rolling agricultural between base of mountains and plains; varied good trails
Services ✧ all; bigger towns 15/25mins train (last 10pm)
Access ✧ station at door: 5h Paris direct; airport 15mins
Dedicated units likely for part-time use only.
Area ✧ the town is a well established pilgrimage site (3rd amongst catholics worldwide, 3 million visitors pre-pandemic, most foreign), thus lots of hotels (135+) with the town's population just 10k, and eateries, albeit catering to less particular older visitors
✦ is thus well connected with a direct trains from Paris (TGV and sleeper); the Toulouse–Barcelona route (3h) should also reopen with a moderate 2h connection putting it at the same duration as Paris (with a change)
✦ the airport is served year-round to Malta (nomads), Stansted, Dublin, Milan; with seasonal to Palermo (nomads), and Krakow, amongst others, with Lisbon (loadsa nomads!) likely to be added; Toulouse airport is 3h by transit
✦ nice town of Tarbes is 15mins train (last 9:15pm), great small city of Pau is 25mins (last 10:30pm!)
not immediately obviously a good workation property due to being in town, however it has the benefits of convenient facilities whilst also being very nicely positioned for more towns and nature alike, though from the door nature a bit limited (par for most properties even often in villages), yet with a short drive, or bus there's nice variety, however the better outings mainly require driving
having been solely focussed on pilgrimage, with the forecast now that as pilgrims age (and die) there will be significantly less visitors, thus the town must change and adapt; it has introduced a mid term plan (€100m; 38m from the state) to regenerate itself and diversify thus presents a good time to invest here (thoughly probably hotel prices will continue to fall); the plans include improving its squares and some riverbank (underway), expanding pedestrian zones, better supporting outdoor sports and wider culture, plus for some novelty something to do with supporting the wool industry
decent public garden and also a bit of grassy riverbank
✦ indoor market; a good number of cafes and restaurants (including several foreign)
✦ hikes 20mins (10mins bike) along a lane (for a 1h30 circuit climbing the adjacant hilltop, or a quicker 30mins stroll along pilgrim steps)
✦ funicular 20mins walk/bus with hikes from summit (500m ascent) and small bikepark (host to the world cup 3 times)
✦ the next train stop adds variety for return from one-way bikes (or gentle 3h wooded hike)
✦ many trails around on edge of large natural park, both easy along valleys and up into the mountains; marked biking trails with multiple loops varying from easy woods to open hills and mountainous (430km from town, 1100km total)
✦ tennis courts and hamman/sauna/indoor pool close
✦ lake very close (15mins bike/bus) with SUP; also kayaking close
✦ several climbing spots within walking distance; exceptional giant indoor climbing centre in Tarbes; 30mins to a via ferrata
✦ 20km paved greenway to mountains, good for rollerblading, 1h easy bike
✦ bus 45mins to lovely town of Bagneres-de-Bigorre; driving into mountains 40mins-1h for the Pic du Midi (skiing) and cirque de Gavarnie
✦ 30mins to cross-country ski and station with skilifts (and another bikepark), 40mins to major station (and another bikepark)
✦ thus reasonable selection of activities possible by public transport, and more interesting ones requring driving
a bit nippy in the winter but still some good warm sunny days, actual clear sunny days are low but as there's many only partly overcast days it is still appealing, with more survivable greenery than other drier regions
✦ is thus well connected with a direct trains from Paris (TGV and sleeper); the Toulouse–Barcelona route (3h) should also reopen with a moderate 2h connection putting it at the same duration as Paris (with a change)
✦ the airport is served year-round to Malta (nomads), Stansted, Dublin, Milan; with seasonal to Palermo (nomads), and Krakow, amongst others, with Lisbon (loadsa nomads!) likely to be added; Toulouse airport is 3h by transit
✦ nice town of Tarbes is 15mins train (last 9:15pm), great small city of Pau is 25mins (last 10:30pm!)
not immediately obviously a good workation property due to being in town, however it has the benefits of convenient facilities whilst also being very nicely positioned for more towns and nature alike, though from the door nature a bit limited (par for most properties even often in villages), yet with a short drive, or bus there's nice variety, however the better outings mainly require driving
having been solely focussed on pilgrimage, with the forecast now that as pilgrims age (and die) there will be significantly less visitors, thus the town must change and adapt; it has introduced a mid term plan (€100m; 38m from the state) to regenerate itself and diversify thus presents a good time to invest here (thoughly probably hotel prices will continue to fall); the plans include improving its squares and some riverbank (underway), expanding pedestrian zones, better supporting outdoor sports and wider culture, plus for some novelty something to do with supporting the wool industry
decent public garden and also a bit of grassy riverbank
✦ indoor market; a good number of cafes and restaurants (including several foreign)
✦ hikes 20mins (10mins bike) along a lane (for a 1h30 circuit climbing the adjacant hilltop, or a quicker 30mins stroll along pilgrim steps)
✦ funicular 20mins walk/bus with hikes from summit (500m ascent) and small bikepark (host to the world cup 3 times)
✦ the next train stop adds variety for return from one-way bikes (or gentle 3h wooded hike)
✦ many trails around on edge of large natural park, both easy along valleys and up into the mountains; marked biking trails with multiple loops varying from easy woods to open hills and mountainous (430km from town, 1100km total)
✦ tennis courts and hamman/sauna/indoor pool close
✦ lake very close (15mins bike/bus) with SUP; also kayaking close
✦ several climbing spots within walking distance; exceptional giant indoor climbing centre in Tarbes; 30mins to a via ferrata
✦ 20km paved greenway to mountains, good for rollerblading, 1h easy bike
✦ bus 45mins to lovely town of Bagneres-de-Bigorre; driving into mountains 40mins-1h for the Pic du Midi (skiing) and cirque de Gavarnie
✦ 30mins to cross-country ski and station with skilifts (and another bikepark), 40mins to major station (and another bikepark)
✦ thus reasonable selection of activities possible by public transport, and more interesting ones requring driving
a bit nippy in the winter but still some good warm sunny days, actual clear sunny days are low but as there's many only partly overcast days it is still appealing, with more survivable greenery than other drier regions
Property ✧ a contemporary 50s villa having oak parquet, and an impressive circular marble staircase lit with glass block wall
✦ good condition and fully usable but starting to moulder
✦ would (ultimately) need a fair bit of replanning to be optimal
✦ over 3500m2 of south facing garden with old trees part terraced on a slope; 200m2 of which is veg behind a neighbour
✦ access is behind an apartment block
✦ faces an ugly overflow bus parking lot but hidden by trees
currently 8 bedroom, which are generously large so number could be increased by splitting them as more typical coliving rooms, retaining some as micro-studios; however properties of this size are not suitable for fulltime residents without affecting community dynamics thus dedicated units would have a use restriction and members would be encouraged to support other properties for their remaining needs at other times
✦ has an attic with one dormer and access to small rooftop terrace from stairs; is vary narrow with limited standing height only at the apex, but possibly suitable with small skylights for independent cubicle pods (17m long so at least 8 just on one side); else would have to build an extension at back to 2nd floor for the pods
✦ realy needs an east roof terrace, giving view of the fort and mountains, as otherwise blocked by the trees; could be acheived by building a 2-floor extension with flat roof, adding up to 100m2, else simply removing part of the roof
✦ 35m2 could easily be added by covering part of the 1st floor terrace enlarging the 2nd floor's instead
property tax likely about €6500 (€80/room/month in current layout) which isn't unduly bad
~190m2 ground
✦ ~150m2 1st with large balcony terrace
✦ 130m2 2nd with balcony terrace
✦ balcony terraces look like they may need supporting columns added
might have land retaining wall risks
actually abuts a 1300m2 empty building of the same price (#76), judging from the fact they both have similar feaatures, presumably built by the same owner as seperate residence and workshop, they tried selling that first
✦ good condition and fully usable but starting to moulder
✦ would (ultimately) need a fair bit of replanning to be optimal
✦ over 3500m2 of south facing garden with old trees part terraced on a slope; 200m2 of which is veg behind a neighbour
✦ access is behind an apartment block
✦ faces an ugly overflow bus parking lot but hidden by trees
currently 8 bedroom, which are generously large so number could be increased by splitting them as more typical coliving rooms, retaining some as micro-studios; however properties of this size are not suitable for fulltime residents without affecting community dynamics thus dedicated units would have a use restriction and members would be encouraged to support other properties for their remaining needs at other times
✦ has an attic with one dormer and access to small rooftop terrace from stairs; is vary narrow with limited standing height only at the apex, but possibly suitable with small skylights for independent cubicle pods (17m long so at least 8 just on one side); else would have to build an extension at back to 2nd floor for the pods
✦ realy needs an east roof terrace, giving view of the fort and mountains, as otherwise blocked by the trees; could be acheived by building a 2-floor extension with flat roof, adding up to 100m2, else simply removing part of the roof
✦ 35m2 could easily be added by covering part of the 1st floor terrace enlarging the 2nd floor's instead
property tax likely about €6500 (€80/room/month in current layout) which isn't unduly bad
~190m2 ground
✦ ~150m2 1st with large balcony terrace
✦ 130m2 2nd with balcony terrace
✦ balcony terraces look like they may need supporting columns added
might have land retaining wall risks
actually abuts a 1300m2 empty building of the same price (#76), judging from the fact they both have similar feaatures, presumably built by the same owner as seperate residence and workshop, they tried selling that first
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